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Dunseith says back me or I quit in row over PSNI

(Greg Harkin, The People)

BBC and PSNI bosses are at war - over Talkback presenter David Dunseith, The People can reveal today (Sunday). Police chiefs are demanding an apology from the Radio Ulster presenter after he asked a senior police officer 'unauthorised' questions. Now the police are boycotting Northern Ireland's most popular radio show until the BBC says 'sorry'.

In an incredible move, the PSNI is insisting that senior officers must be given a run-down of likely questions before they appear on radio or TV programmes.

The bust-up at Talkback erupted after Acting Assistant Chief Constable Judith Gillespie appeared on the programme on January 8. She had been invited to discuss the growing number of attacks on elderly people across Northern Ireland.

Dunseith's 'crime' was to ask her about the latest police figures on drink-driving as well as what police were doing about the growing menace of kids driving scooters on public roads and footpaths.

Gillespie could be heard on air objecting to the questions being asked, before she answered them. A senior police source revealed to The People: "No other senior members of the PSNI will be appearing on Talkback until we receive an apology from Mr Dunseith and his team.

"Judith Gillespie agreed to the interview on January 8 because police are concerned about crime against the elderly.

"It was unfair of the BBC presenter to then ask questions out of the blue about subjects that had not been agreed.

"There have been discussions with the BBC about future interviews."

Another PSNI source said: "Judith (Gillespie) was furious after the broadcast. She had been briefed about crime against the elderly but not about the drink-driving statistics or other subjects.

"There's no way we would ask for questions in advance from any media organisation, but we believe there should be agreement beforehand over the subject areas a journalist plans to cover."

Battling BBC boss Kathleen Carragher, however, has refused to apologise to the cops. And Dunseith himself has warned that he will quit his award-winning show if he is forced to give in to police demands.

A top BBC source told The People: "The day the BBC gives in to such demands will be the day the BBC ceases to exist as a credible organisation.

"What is particularly galling about this row is that the questions David put to this police officer about scooters and drink-driving were so innocuous and so tame.

"He wasn't asking for chapter and verse, just how she (Gillespie) felt about the fact that so many people were still willing to drink and drive on our roads.

"In fact David deliberately asked straightforward questions so that she wouldn't feel caught out.

"If the PSNI wants to boycott Talkback and other programmes because of red tape then so be it.

"They will have to try to get their message about how they are tackling crime out through other outlets."

Another senior member of BBC staff told us: "I think Dunseith, like any good journalist, would walk away from his job rather than give in to demands from the PSNI or anyone else for that matter."

The People has learned that the National Union of Journalists is set to become involved in the row. The PSNI has written to the BBC demanding new guidelines on all future interviews.

Asked to comment on the row a BBC spokeswoman would only say: "We do not comment on guests or interviews carried out here."

A PSNI spokesman said: "The police service works hard to have a professional relationship with all media outlets."

January 21, 2004
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This article appeared first in The People on January 18, 2004.

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